Also spelled Drumsmodden.
Mary bap. 1730
Jean bap. 1732
George bap.1737
From Cumnock Connections
[Birth notes]GUTHRIE, DAVID lawful son of DAVID GUTHRIE in DRUMSMUDDAN was born December 16th 1770 and baptized.
13 Dec 1799 • Ochiltree, Ayrshire, ScotlandDAVID GUTHRIE in DRUMSMUDDAN and JEAN SMITH in BULOSH (Barlosh?) were regularly proclaimed in the parish kirk and married December 13th 1799.
I found this information on the internet from a family research post. Not all of it has been verified by anyone at the Cumnock History Group, but it is an interesting read, and links have been put in where possible and suggest it is correct. (EC 2020). Excerpt...
Thomas GUTHRIE was resident at Drumsmudden farm near Ochiltree in the
early 1730s. His son David was running the farm in the 1760/1770s. His
son David GUTHRIE married Jean SMITH and they had six children;
Robert (1803) married Isabella STEEL in Ochiltree 1838. She was the
daughter of John STEEL and Isabella COLVILLE of McQuieiston farm,
Ochiltree. Robert’s sister Agnes married Charles STEEL who was possibly
the Charles STEEL, a brother of Isabella.
Robert and Isabella had five children;
John Steel GUTHRIE born 1840. John came to New Zealand in 1862 with
his brother Robert and settled in Christchurch. In 1867 he was appointed
manager of the Christchurch Press newspaper and in 1878 became editor.
He married Catherine FITZGIBBON and they had nine children. He was still
at the Press when he died in 1900. John is buried at the Linwood
Cemetery, Christchurch.
David GUTHRIE born 1843. He came to New Zealand in 1864 on the
"British Empire" and was killed at the Maori Chief (Gold) Claim at
Charleston, West Coast, South Island.
Robert GUTHRIE born 1845. Robert came to New Zealand in 1862 with his
brother John. He was foreman of Provision Produce Co of Belfast,
Canterbury. He died in 1915.
Isabella GUTHRIE born 1847. She came to New Zealand in 1864 on the "British Empire" with her brother David and sister Jane.
Jane GUTHRIE born 1849. She came to New Zealand in 1864 on the "British Empire" with her brother David and sister Isabella.
After the GUTHRIE family left Drumsmudden Farm it was then taken over
by George Douglas BROWN. Around 1869 he had a child with one his
dairymaid’s Sarah GEMMELL. Sarah left the farm for a nearby cottage
where on the 26 January 1869; their son was born. He was also named
George Douglas BROWN, and was locally known as "Smudden's Bastard".
Sarah and her son moved to nearby Coylton and a few years later young
George attended school there. He left school at an early age to work at
Trabboch Pit but his old schoolmaster had the foresight to send him to
Ayr Academy, and from there he went to Glasgow University and then
finally Balliol College, Oxford. George's book "The House with the Green
Shutters" is still standard reading in Scottish schools. The house
still stands in Ochiltree today as a monument to a local boy.
The History of Ochiltree Village & Parish - Dane Love
p318
Drumsmodden
Drumsmoda in 1654. Drumsmiding in 1725. Drumsmudden in 1930. 160 acres in 1725. 230 acres in 1871. 330 acres in 2010.
1517 William Cathcart
1523 William Cathcart (son)
1730 Thomas Guthrie
1770 David Guthrie (1730- )
1797 David Guthrie (1770-<1837)
1841-1861 - Robert Guthrie
1861-1892 Drumjoan Estate - George Douglas Brown (1811- )
1899-1901 Drumjoan Estate - John Murdoch (1871-19 )
1914-1940 Drumjoan Estate - Hugh Rorison
1990 Andrew Rorison
1997-2010 Ian & C. Morrison
Census
1841 Census - Drumsmuden, Ochiltree
Robert Guthrie 35 - farmer, wife Isabella 30 and 1yr old son John, William Guthrie 25, Margaret McCosh 20, and Margaret Gemmell 15.
1851 Census - Drumsmuden
Robert Guthrie 45 - farmer of 160 acres emp 2 agricultural labourers, wife Isabella Steele Guthrie 40, 3 young sons, David 8, Robert 5 and daughters Jean 1 and Isabella 3. Servants are James Greig 23, Ivie 18 both farm servants, Isabella Greig 22, dairymaid, and Mary Foster 17.
The Greigs (or Greggs) were at the farm of McQuittistan in 1841, with the Steel family.t son John went to Edinburgh
The Guthrie parents died in 1854 and 1857 leaving children to run the farm. Oldest son John was at Edinburgh University by 1861 leaving David to carry on. Younger brother Robert and
1861 Census - Drumsmudden
David Guthrie 18 - farmer of 160 acres emp 4 men 2 women with brother Robert 15, sister Isabella 13, sister Jane11.
James Smith 27, and presume wife Isabella (Greig) 32 are ploughman and dairymaid and they have two children Robert 3 and John 1. The Smith family later went to Kirkcudbright to farm. They also have Mary Murdoch 19 and Maria Good 18. The Guthries emigrated to New Zealand.
1871 Census - Drunsmudden
George Brown 53 - farmer of 230 acres arable emp 2 labourers, 1 boy
Thomas Cuthbert 41, Ivie Morrison 18,
Margaret Morrison 31, dairymaid, Janet Elliot 23 and Allice Hair 15.
1881 Census - Drums Muddan
George D (Douglas) Brown 65 - farmer of 220 acres arable emp 1 man 3 girls
wife Margaret (Morrison) 42. They have four children all under 8, James 6, Susan 8, Margaret 4, and Helen 1. Servants are Jane Richmond 20, Eliza Morrison 21, Jane Martin 17, and Henry Millar 15, farm servant.(This Henry Millar may be the son of John Millar and Jessie Guthrie mentioned in the excerpt of a family history trail shown above.)
1891 Census - Drumsmudden
George Brown 80 - farmer, wife Margaret 52, 3 daughters, susan 18, Margaret 14, and Ellen 11, son James,16 ,and servants James McLachlan 63 and Margaret Morrison 18.
Because of his age, there was an attempt to evict George Brown, as seen in the following cuttings.
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Drumsmodden to let Scotsman 1892
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New tenants by 1901
1901 Census - Drumsmudden (Ochiltree)
John Murdoch 30 with his father Hendry Murdoch 71, (late farmer), sister Jessie 24 (housekeeper), and three servants, Sarah Sweden 24, Bella Strachan 18, and Hugh McCormick 18.
The author son of George Brown from the Cumnock Chronicle 1902
Died 28th August 1902 , Edinburgh Evening News
Robert Bryden , sculptor , was responsible for the War Memorial in Coylton.
Robert Bryden1855 Tenant Robert Guthrie, Proprietor Robert Campbell
1865 Tenant George Douglas Brown, Proprietor Robert Campbell
1875 Tenant George Douglas Brown, Proprietor William Campbell
1905 Tenant John Murdoch, Proprietor William Campbell
1915 Tenant Hugh Rorison, Proprietor Lord Skerrington
1940 Proprietor and occupier Hugh Rorison
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| Kilmarnock Herald and Ayrshire Gazette April 15 1949 |
The book 'The House with the Green Shutters' is available to view online and is very well worth a read - certainly the description of village life.(EC)
